Based on what I've read so far, likely, but cannot be proven. The Japanese Navy has formalized its submarine testing:
- from testing new technologies on several operational Oyashio and Soryu submarines.
- to a formal testing program called 29SS (with 29SS being a Japanese Ministry of Finance to
Ministry of Defense research funding designation, rather than an actual operational submarine).
The 29SS Program apparently begun in 2017 (see SORYU TABLE below). 29SS apparently involves testing of such new technologies as:
- new, higher sea state (storm) snorkel system http://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2018/01/japanese-
soryu-higher-power-snorkel.html
- new pumpjet? propulsor
- new 12V25/31S diesels
- new diesel-to-LIB and LIB-to-propeller/propulsor transmissions.
- further LIB testing (eg. new LIB types/formulas)
- more broadly an updated combat system which would include:
: new "G-RX6" torpedoes, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_89_torpedo which contains
sentence "A succeeding design is in development under the development name of "G-RX6" still
using Mark 48 torpedo technology.
: new mines and decoys,
: possible Japanese successor to the Harpoon ASM
: consideration of Tomahawk or more advanced Land Attack Missiles
: such sensors as hull and towed sonars, radars, other submarine motion detectors
: optronic (non-hull piercing) masts,
: new central processing computers.
Even though 29SS does not mean a new submarine, the technologies above could be tested on existing "training" submarines. "Training" can be a cover for "testbed" submarine.
Japan's 2 known training submarines are the 2 earliest Oyashios
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyashio-class_submarine#Boats namely:
- SS-590. Converted to training submarine (TSS-3608) on 6 March 2015, and
- SS-591. Converted to training submarine (TSS-3609) on 27 February 2017.
So TSS-3608 and/or TSS-3609 could be the full scale testbeds for 29SS Submarine Research Program. Meanwhile there is a great deal of on-shore testing of 29SS technologies, eg. electronics, weapons and test pools (for miniature scale models to test the hydrodynamics of slightly altered hull shapes).
A new sail/fin, less exaggerated than the German Type 212A's, may eventially be adopted. A much lower, muc more blended sail/fin than the Soryu's is unlikely because Japanese submarines still need to be tall/perpendicular enough to operate, surfaced, without being swamped, in the higher sea states of the open Western Pacific Ocean.
As is Japan's usual practice the new technologies will be steadily incorporated into individual submarines on an iterative, continuous-build basis, rather than a US/European style batch basis.
Looking at the SORYU TABLE below, 30SS may be the first new-build submarine to begin incorporating 29SS Program features (eg. 2 x 12V25/31S diesels). Some Oyashios and Soryu's may be retrofitted - especially with updated combat system electronics and perhaps the G-RX6 torpedo.
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- from testing new technologies on several operational Oyashio and Soryu submarines.
- to a formal testing program called 29SS (with 29SS being a Japanese Ministry of Finance to
Ministry of Defense research funding designation, rather than an actual operational submarine).
The 29SS Program apparently begun in 2017 (see SORYU TABLE below). 29SS apparently involves testing of such new technologies as:
- new, higher sea state (storm) snorkel system http://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2018/01/japanese-
soryu-higher-power-snorkel.html
- new pumpjet? propulsor
- new 12V25/31S diesels
- new diesel-to-LIB and LIB-to-propeller/propulsor transmissions.
- further LIB testing (eg. new LIB types/formulas)
- more broadly an updated combat system which would include:
: new "G-RX6" torpedoes, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_89_torpedo which contains
sentence "A succeeding design is in development under the development name of "G-RX6" still
using Mark 48 torpedo technology.
: new mines and decoys,
: possible Japanese successor to the Harpoon ASM
: consideration of Tomahawk or more advanced Land Attack Missiles
: such sensors as hull and towed sonars, radars, other submarine motion detectors
: optronic (non-hull piercing) masts,
: new central processing computers.
Even though 29SS does not mean a new submarine, the technologies above could be tested on existing "training" submarines. "Training" can be a cover for "testbed" submarine.
Japan's 2 known training submarines are the 2 earliest Oyashios
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyashio-class_submarine#Boats namely:
- SS-590. Converted to training submarine (TSS-3608) on 6 March 2015, and
- SS-591. Converted to training submarine (TSS-3609) on 27 February 2017.
So TSS-3608 and/or TSS-3609 could be the full scale testbeds for 29SS Submarine Research Program. Meanwhile there is a great deal of on-shore testing of 29SS technologies, eg. electronics, weapons and test pools (for miniature scale models to test the hydrodynamics of slightly altered hull shapes).
A new sail/fin, less exaggerated than the German Type 212A's, may eventially be adopted. A much lower, muc more blended sail/fin than the Soryu's is unlikely because Japanese submarines still need to be tall/perpendicular enough to operate, surfaced, without being swamped, in the higher sea states of the open Western Pacific Ocean.
As is Japan's usual practice the new technologies will be steadily incorporated into individual submarines on an iterative, continuous-build basis, rather than a US/European style batch basis.
Looking at the SORYU TABLE below, 30SS may be the first new-build submarine to begin incorporating 29SS Program features (eg. 2 x 12V25/31S diesels). Some Oyashios and Soryu's may be retrofitted - especially with updated combat system electronics and perhaps the G-RX6 torpedo.
SORYU TABLE. as at March 13, 2020
SS No. Diesel Type Motor | Build No Name | Pennant No. | MoF approved amount ¥ Billions FY | LABs, LIBs, AIP | Laid Down | Laun -ched | Commi ssioned | Built By |
5SS Oyashio | 8105 Oyashio (mythical | SS-590/ TS3608 | ¥52.2B FY1993 | LABs only | Jan 1994 | Oct 1996 | Mar 1998 | KHI |
6SS-15SS Oyashios 10 subs SMC-7? | 8106 -8115 various | SS-591-600 | ¥52.2B per sub FY1994-FY2003 | LABs only | 15SS Feb 2004 | 15SS Nov 2006 | 15SS Mar 2008 | MHI & KHI |
16SS Dragon class Mk I | 8116 | SS-501 | ¥60B FY2004 all Soryus with Kawasaki SMC-8 motor | LABs + AIP | Mar 2005 | Dec 2007 | Mar 2009 | MHI |
17SS | 8117 Unryū | SS-502 | ¥58.7B FY2005 | LABs + AIP | Mar 2006 | Oct 2008 | Mar 2010 | KHI |
18SS | 8118 Hakuryū | SS-503 | ¥56.2 FY2006 | LABs + AIP | Feb 2007 | Oct 2009 | Mar 2011 | MHI |
19SS | 8119 Kenryū | SS-504 | ¥53B FY2007 | LABs + AIP | Mar 2008 | Nov 2010 | Mar 2012 | KHI |
20SS | 8120 Zuiryū | SS-505 | ¥51B FY2008 | LABs + AIP | Mar 2009 | Oct 2011 | Mar 2013 | MHI |
21SS Concept | No 21SS built But was a concept research project on LIBs. 1st LIBs sub launched is 27SS | research in 2010 | research | research | ||||
22SS | 8121 Kokuryū | SS-506 | ¥52.8B FY2010 | LABs + AIP | Jan 2011 | Oct 2013 | Mar 2015 | KHI |
23SS | 8122 Jinryu | SS-507 | ¥54.6B FY2011 | LABs + AIP | Feb 2012 | Oct 2014 | 7 Mar 2016 | MHI |
24SS | 8123 Sekiryū | SS-508 | ¥54.7B FY2012 | LABs + AIP | KHI | |||
25SS | 8124 | SS-509 | ¥53.1B FY2013 | LABs + AIP | 22 Oct 2013 | 12 Oct 2016 | MHI | |
26SS | 8125 | SS-510 | LABs + AIP | 2014 | 6 Nov 2017 | KHI | ||
27SS SoryuMk II due to 1st with LIBs | 8126 | SS-511 | LIBs only (NCA type) | 2015 | 4 Oct 2018 | MHI | ||
28SS Soryu Mk II | 8127 | SS-512 | ¥63.6B FY2016 "2,900t" surfaced | LIBs only | Jan 2017 | Mar 2021? | KHI | |
29SS may be the 1st of a New class | ¥76B FY2017 New features research may include: a further blended fin for noise reduction-better water flow, new propulsor, new diesels, new snorkel system. G-RX6 torpedoes replacing the Type 89s? May be using TSS-3608 and TSS-3609 as testbeds. | research in 2017pro-gram began | research | research | MHI assisted by KHI & JMoD | |||
30SS New Class? | 8028? | SS-513 | ¥71.5B FY2018 | LIBs only | 2018? | 2020? | 2022? | MHI? |
31SS New Class ? | 8029? | SS-514 | ¥B?FY2019 | LIBs only | 2019? | 2021? | 2023? | KHI? |
32SS New Class ? | 8030? | SS-515 | ¥B?Y2020 | LIBs only | 2020? | 2022? | 2024? | MHI? |
33SS New Class ? | 8031? | SS-516 | ¥B? FY2021 | LIBs only | 2021? | 2023? | 2025? | KHI? |
34SS New Class ? | 8032? | SS-517 | ¥B? FY2022 | LIBs only | 2022? | 2024? | 2026? | MHI? |
35SS New Class ? | 8033? | SS-518 | ¥B? FY2023 | LIBs only | 2023? | 2025? | 2027? | KHI? |
36SS New Class ? | 8034? | SS-519 | ¥B? FY2024 | LIBs only | 2024? | 2026? | 2028? | MHI? |
37SS New Class ? | 8035? | SS-520 | ¥B? FY2025 | LIBs only | 2025? | 2027? | 2029? | KHI? |
38SS New Class ? | 8036? | SS-521 | ¥B? FY2026 | LIBs only | 2026? | 2028? | 2030? | MHI? |
Key to Table: Table information exclusively provided to Submarine Matters. LABs = lead-acid batteries, AIP = air independent propulsion, LIBs = Lithium-ion Batteries. ¥***B = Billion Yen. MHI = Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, KHI = Kawasaki Shipbuilding Corporation of Kawasaki Heavy Industries.
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