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Australia likely buying 3 to 5 Virginias. Building UK SSN(Rs)?

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Reports from various media outlets support Submarine Matters prediction, here and here that Australia will/may eventually buy UK designed SSNs from the UK and/or to build them in Australia.


But what Submarine Matters didn't predict is the variation below that Australia might also buy from 3 to 5 Virginia's during the 2030s as submarine capability gap fillers.

The article below, with similar/same information from other news outlets here, here and here, looks credible in terms of what President Biden and Prime Ministers  Sunak and Albanese will say at the AUKUS summit in San Diego next week.

US Political Change of Heart?

A good intention to sell Australia Virginias in 10 or more years time is a long time in AUKUS politics, where political continuity is essential, but unlikely. Biden will not be President in the 2030s.

Even before the 2030s there is uncertainty over Biden being re-elected in November 2024. Might a Republican President (at worst the alliance transactor Trump?) have different priorities, which might include bowing to USN pressure not to sell Virginias to Australia? 

Biden has made a promise he cannot possibly honour during his sitting presidential term.

One additional doubt is the irrationality of Australia operating US and UK designed SSNs simultaneously.  It may well be after Australia buys 5 Virginias it would make more sense to buy 3 additional Virginias to makeup the complete and final fleet of 8. 

The alternative of building 3 UK SSN(R)s in Adelaide, to make up the 8, just doesn't make financial, training or operational sense - only political sense, to make Adelaide's various interest groups happy.

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Matthew Knott, for the Sydney Morning Herald, March 9, 2023 reports below 


"Australia to buy US nuclear submarines to fill capability gap"

By Matthew Knott   

Australia is expected to buy up to five Virginia-class nuclear submarines from the United States under the AUKUS pact, defying repeated warnings that US shipyards were stretched to full capacity and could not sell any boats to Australia.

In the longer term, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is set to announce Australia will acquire a fleet of nuclear-powered submarines based primarily on a new British design in a major victory for his British counterpart Rishi Sunak.

Australia will acquire boats based on the Astute-class submarines in the long term and Virginia-class submarines from the US to fill a capability gap.

CREDIT:

Albanese will appear at the San Diego Naval Base on Tuesday [14 March 2023] with Sunak and US President Joe Biden to announce details of the project.

Albanese has said the nuclear-powered submarines – which can travel at longer distances underwater than conventional vessels – will “be the single biggest leap in our defence capability” in Australia’s history.

The AUKUS submarines [SSN(R)s] would be a modified version of the UK’s next-generation Astute-class submarine, which is currently being designed, according to Bloomberg.

The vessels would be assembled in Adelaide and include American technology [especially the US Lockheed integrated combat systems, including VLS] fulfilling Defence Minister Richard Marles’ vow that the AUKUS submarine project will be a truly three-nation endeavour.

However, the decision to proceed with a new design will raise concerns about potential delays and cost blowouts, given it is more complicated than buying existing technology.

The purchase of Virginia-class vessels will help Australia bridge a looming capability gap between the retirement of the current diesel-powered Collins-class submarines and the arrival of the new nuclear-powered AUKUS boats.

Australia will buy three Virginia-class submarines sometime in the early 2030s and will have the option to buy two more, multiple US defence sources told Reuters.

The outcome vindicates the optimistic approach of US congressman Joe Courtney, who said last year that Australia should not give up hope of purchasing nuclear-powered submarines off-the-shelf from the United States as an interim solution.

A delegation from South Australia is expected to visit the BAE Systems shipyard in the British port city of Barrow-in-Furness in the coming weeks to begin sharing information about the project.

American nuclear-powered submarines are expected to regularly dock [as they have for decades - see Submarine Matters article] at the HMAS Stirling Naval Base in Perth while Australia awaits its own vessels.

Sunak is reportedly delighted about the outcome of the 18-month negotiations, which will help secure the future of the Barrow-in-Furness shipyard.

There were initial expectations were that Australia would opt for a US-designed submarine, with Britain being something of a bit-player in the project.

UK High Commissioner Vicki Treadell said Opposition Leader Peter Dutton’s comments on AUKUS were not helpful.


The United Kingdom’s top envoy in Australia on Thursday rebuked Opposition Leader Peter Dutton for saying Australia should not acquire nuclear-powered submarines from Britain under the AUKUS pact, personally telling the opposition leader his remarks were unhelpful.

Dutton, who was defence minister when AUKUS was announced in September 2021, last week warned against acquiring a future fleet from the UK, saying he thought the American Virginia-class submarines were the best option for Australia.

“The beauty in my mind with the American model, of the Virginia class, was that it was a proven design, it gave us interoperability with the Americans and there will be more American subs in the Indo-Pacific than there will be British submarines,” Dutton said.

Asked about Dutton’s remarks during an appearance at the National Press Club, UK High Commissioner Vicki Treadell said: “I told Mr Dutton myself last night that I didn’t agree with his view”.


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