The senior member of Australia's future submarine Expert Advisory Panel, former US Secretary of the Navy, Professor Donald C. Winter (former Corporate Vice President Northrop Grumman). The competitive evaluation process (CEP) has apparently already selected the US made combat system. (Photograph courtesy US Navy)
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70% of the future submarine may be built in Australia but if Australia accepts the US's pro Japan bid policy then Japan will win. Australia will have to tolerate Japanese inexperience while Japan attempts to develop the build in Australia project. This may be expensive and risky for Australia.
US influence and involvement issues include:
1. Australia's on the record preference for the US combat system (which is a submarine's sensor-database-weapons package) that may amount to 30% of the cost of the submarine.
- On February 20, 2015 Defence Minister Andrews declared: "...the Government has endorsed a set of key strategic requirements for our future submarines:...c) The combat system and heavyweight torpedo jointly developed between the United States and Australia as the preferred combat system and main armament."
- the US combat system has been modified at high expense then integrated into the Collins
- see further Australian Ministerial and Defence-DMO support and planning for future use of the US combat system
2. Given the highly confidential nature of the combat system it may be effectively up to the US which country such technology can be transferred to.
- US technology transfer powers may limit Australian decision-making and also influence how our future submarines are built.
- It is widely believed in the submarine industry that the US would not wish combat system technology transferred to French submarine builders.
- as the US is believed to have already transferred much of its combat system technology to Japan it is assumed that integration of the combat system into a future Australian submarine designed by Japan would not be a problem.
- parts of the US combat system have been integrated with some German (TKMS) designed submarines. Such as Lockheed Martin modifying Brazil's Tupi (Type 209) class submarines to use US Mark 48 torpedoes . So TKMS may stand between Japan and France in terms of ease of integration of the US combat system.
- see further Australian Ministerial and Defence-DMO support and planning for future use of the US combat system
2. Given the highly confidential nature of the combat system it may be effectively up to the US which country such technology can be transferred to.
- US technology transfer powers may limit Australian decision-making and also influence how our future submarines are built.
- It is widely believed in the submarine industry that the US would not wish combat system technology transferred to French submarine builders.
- as the US is believed to have already transferred much of its combat system technology to Japan it is assumed that integration of the combat system into a future Australian submarine designed by Japan would not be a problem.
- parts of the US combat system have been integrated with some German (TKMS) designed submarines. Such as Lockheed Martin modifying Brazil's Tupi (Type 209) class submarines to use US Mark 48 torpedoes . So TKMS may stand between Japan and France in terms of ease of integration of the US combat system.
3. The US public endorsement of the Japanese Soryu submarine as the best large submarine may be a continuing US policy.
- Such a US policy my be counter to Australian media and broader public expectations that the German and French bids are clearly stronger.
- US pressure on Japan to more fully enter alliances has cost the Abe Government in terms of Japanese public popularity. Japan winning Australia's future submarine competition could be seen as a reward for Abe's trouble.- in terms of proconsular imperium Vice Adm. Robert Thomas, commander of the U.S. Navy’s 7th Fleet, reportedly said Oct. 24 [2014] in Tokyo that then-Australian Defence Minister David Johnston was very interested in Japan’s Soryu-class subs. “I talked to him about it four years ago and I said: ‘You want to find the finest diesel-electric submarine made on the planet - it’s made at Kobe works in Japan,’
4. In terms of the Expert Advisory Panel the US has further influence in the submarine selection process.
- Of the four Expert Advisory Panellists for the Competitive Evaluation Process (CEP) the most senior is an American, Donald C. Winter. He is "senior" by virtue of his position as a former senior politician (US Secretary of the Navy) and former Corporate Vice President Northrop Grumman
- This may favour Japan and the US stake in the combat system.
5. The US combat system (known as the AN/BYG-1) is closely integrated with the Collins' current weapons including: the American made Mark 48 torpedoes and Harpoon anti-ship cruise missiles. The combat system is also tailored to the long range US Tomahawk land attack cruise missile system that Australia wishes to mount in the future submarine.
6. There is an argument that integrating the whole US combat system into the winning competitor's submarine design in Australia is more efficient in terms of minimising contractual disputes, commercial-in-confidence problems and US and Australian national security problems.
7. There is a counter argument that greater technical and cost efficiencies can be achieved by integrating the US combat system with the standard systems already used by the three competitors; France (DCNS), Germany (TKMS) and Japan (KHI, MHI and Japanese Government).
Along the lines of 7. - at Submarine Matters' Turnbull Govt New Policy - 70% Future Submarine to Be Built in Australia, September 17, 2015 "MHalblaub" (on behalf of Germany) made some interesting comments on September 21, 2015 8:58 PM along the lines:
Regarding "the combat system I have to mention a few thoughts:
- Australia is accustomed to a US system. The US combat system offers inherited access to the US SeaWeb.
- on the other hand each submarine type offered has a [standard] combat system which is slotted into other combat systems.
So the question is which way is the better solution?
- fit an US combat system into a submarine or
- fit features of the US combat system into a [one of the 3 competitors standard] combat systems.
I am under the impression the German ISUS system uses the consoles for either mission related jobs (like sonar tracking) or for submarine system related issues (like monitoring the engines). Each console can do every job. So a US system needs also to operate the whole submarine.
ISUS can already be modified to work with [long range land attack missiles. ISUS already is capable of operating a wide variety of torpedoes including the US Mark 48 torpedo and missiles including the US Harpoon... and other weapon systems.]
So what would be easier? Implement some SeaWeb features into an existing system with the Australian knowledge of the US combat system or implement all the other things into an US system?
It was also a wrong strategy to chose the US System without any competition. I can imagine the price..."
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Just some of the components of the US made AN/BYG-1 Combat System. The AN/BYG-1 will very likely be integrated into Australia's Future Submarine.
Pete